Three nights at The Coast Motel, Yeppoon

Queensland Coast 2023

October 26-29. We checked into The Coast Motel in Yeppoon, for three nights. Nice place, with a pool, laundry, room balcony, tavern next door and undercover shaded parking.

During the middle day heat, we caught up on some of the necessities of life, including work (coding and a virtual meeting), laundry. We’re not sure about the stocking lint filter on the dryer.

We chipped away at the seemingly endless admin of preparing to move into our new home, thousands of kilometres away, in Emerald Victoria, where the temperature is less than half that in Yeppoon. I think we’ll be in for a shock when we eventually go home.

In the cooler parts of the day, we gave ourselves a reprieve, with a morning coffee from Two Sisters Coffee Bar in nearby Cooee Bay, a visit to the Wreck Point Scenic Lookout. One day we drove down to Emu Park, with the soldier crabs and metal emus. We ate lunch there, watching several people stroll past in Oktoberfest clothing.

We also had several visits to Yeppoon Main Beach, mentioned in my previous post.

Charging

I don’t know why there are no EV chargers anywhere around Yeppoon,. It’s a missed opportunity by the Livingstone Shire Council and community. We didn’t spot a single EV in town, until we were on our way out on the last day, and we waved madly at some bemused guy in another white Tesla.

We probably should have topped up at the fast charger in Rockhampton on the way into Yeppoon, but didn’t bother since we already had 80%.

I had hoped that, as usual, we could plug in to charge at our accommodation. I found a good parking spot, next to an outside power point (and painted purple smiley face). I asked at reception if we could plug in, but was surprised by his answer.

He said that he had been told not to allow EVs to charge, because they might catch fire! After my initial surprise, I mentioned to him that petrol and diesel vehicles are statistical over ten times more likely to catch on fire than EVs. But he wasn’t interested. He had been “told”, even “by a firefighter”. I thanked him and just left it there.

It is pretty easy to Google: Do EVs catch fire more than petrol cars?
https://www.google.com/search?q=Do+EVs+catch+fire+more+th…

If you don’t know, please find out ☺️. When you do know, if your previous source is shown to be nonsense, question what else you believed from that source.

It’s a shame that misinformation has made Yeppoon less likely to be visited by an increasing number of EVs on the road. We probably won’t be back until this changes. Ironically, having more EVs will actually reduce the chance of a vehicle fire.

We had enough charge for all our day trips during the three days there, but I did disable sentry mode for one night, just to conserve energy.

After we left Yeppoon, as predicted by the Tesla’s navigation, we got back to Rockhampton with 9% battery (37km), and charged, on our way to some shops.

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  1. I spoke a few people awhile back about the lack of charging in Yeppoon.

    One said they kept missing out on funding. But reckoned there was soon to be some EV chargers going in one of the larger car parks there.
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    1. Thomas Brady Excellent!

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  2. Brittany Lauga MP ev chargers? None? Not even one?
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    1. Ric Stumpf None, according to PlugShare. The only option appears to be to use a power point at accommodation, if allowed.
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  3. The Japanese restaurant in the abandoned resort in Yeppoon is a must do. Wanted to do the drive in the RWD but reading your post it’s probably a stretch.
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  4. Hope you left a resort a review on Google or alike, so other travelers are informed,
    I'm so tired of these people that have no idea...I bet he doesn't 2nd guess plugging in his phone every night. 😓😓
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  5. One of the things we do is ask when booking if they have a power point we can use. So far, everyone has said yes (and even roped off the carpark for us). I guess one of the benefits of asking first is that we can support the businesses that support us.
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    1. Anura Samara thanks. Great advice
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    2. Anura Samara We always do ask when booking. We got a no, which was fine as this is their prerogative that’s no problem. We just usually check again upon arrival, reiterate that we just need a standard power point to do this. Then if it’s a yes, we are happy to pay extra, if required.
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      1. Tesla Tripping agreed to checking again as not all staff are on board. For example, we had an example where a spot was reserved for us, but a different staff member told us that all the power points in the carpark were turned off!
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      2. Tesla Tripping sorry, you got a no answer to charging before you got there and still decided to complain in this post when they said no when you actually got there?

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  6. Sadly another uneducated person and no way a firefighter told him that.

    Just be polite and remind people about the 2 ICE BMW's this year that caught fire while people were driving them, how Toyota last month I think it was had a recall due to possible fire (this information is easily accessible) the list goes on and on, then ask them to show you the source of their information on ALL the EV fires here.
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    1. Kylie Gilroy just thought I would let you know that a qfs trainer has also confirmed what I have said so I would suggest you do a little research with our emergency services before having a go at someone for telling the truth iam sorry if it offends anyone

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      1. Mick Oakes wonder if the said firefighter tells ICE owners the same thing?

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      2. Kylie Gilroy iam not aware of him saying to anyone else iam just stating a fact that you don’t seem to like as I tried to explain we have never had a problem with electric cars coming here before and probably won’t again this gentlemen who started all of this likes to twist the truth around to make out other wise the way he explained this is a long way from the truth but he’s definitely fooled some people I hope you have a lovely day

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    2. People “say” all sorts of things. I’m sure we could find two firefighters to say contrary things. There are many opinions, stories and anecdotes. But, just because there was some ICE BMW fire or some EV fire, doesn’t mean that either is the worst. Facts and statistics are the only real truth. Statistically, as a quick search shows, petrol cars are 10 to 60 times more likely to catch fire.
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  7. As stated by manager of The Coast Motel they were unable to allow you to plug into their external PowerPoint which was located out near their gas hot water system that unfortunately had been graffiti by youth around town. As per their insurance they are not covered if anything was to happen. It’s not that they aren’t educated about Tesla as they have tried to contact and been told no to having a charging point by them. We also stated before you arrived that we didn’t have a charging point available which gave you plenty of notice to be able to out source a charging station. We have also had quite a lot of electric cars come through and never had an issue before. As to the lint cover it’s better then spreading the dust and lint around for asthmatic people yes it doesn’t look great but it does the job.
    Maybe you should educate yourself in respect for other businesses trying to still earn a living as they pay for the electricity that you tried to get for nothing. 👍
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    1. Dimity Miller Thanks for your reply and insight.

      At the end of the day, the manager can of course say “no EV charging” for whatever reason they want. It’s their business. But if they say it’s because they’ve been told that EVs pose a higher fire risk, which is incorrect, then I question the source of information.

      Reception made no mention of gas or insurance. It was just “we’ve been told not to allow EVs to charge, due to fire risk”. If that’s what they’ve been told, then there’s nothing I can do about that, other than pointing out that the EVs are far less likely to catch fire than petrol/diesel vehicles and suggest that they query the source.

      If the insurance provider is saying that they’re not covered for EVs charging, that’s interesting and I would like to look into that source. If you’re not insured then you can’t offer it – fair enough ☺️. Similarly, I’d like to find the firefighter who has said that it’s a higher risk and query that source.

      If those sources turn around to say that EVs are okay to charge, then I suggest it would be a great opportunity for this small business to offer charging points in the car park.

      When we asked about charging, when booking, management replied with just “We can not accommodate your request”. We did not know exactly what that meant, which is why, when we arrived, I found a power point and asked if we could plug into that. Other venues have previously said that they didn’t facilitate EVs, only because they thought we needed some special EV charger, but were more than happy for us to plug in when I explained that we only needed a power point.

      If asked to pay extra for charging, we would be happy to do so. It would have cost about $10 to $20. We were staying for three nights.

      The lint collecting mechanism was interesting and inventive. I can see it had some advantages over a door filter. Given that lint build up in dryers is a big cause of house fires, it’s also a challenge.

      Otherwise, it’s a great place to stay. Shaded parking, pool, laundry, easy drive to beaches etc. We wish you all the best.
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    2. Dimity Miller you are responding very aggressively to an EV owner on an EV owners FB page.
      AND you've admitted you've had many EV owners previously visit your accommodation.
      Any other business owner might see a great business opportunity to investigate the REAL fire risk of EVs & explore how you could provide safe charging points & make yourself an attractive destination for the ever-growing EV community.
      As it is, your thinly veiled nastiness means I'm putting a black mark against your property & will NOT be encouraging anyone to stay with you.
      Other accommodation providers in Yeppoon will likely be a bit more business savvy & win customers as a result.
      Oops!🤷‍♀️
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      1. Linda Mae Reeb well Linda I’m not nasty I’m stating a fact and having someone come at my parents over us saying no and being a keyboard warrior as we have been told by fire fighters that I’m sorry risk their lives to put fires out we aren’t willingly to have one here. You can black list all you like but as peter has keyboard warrior as well we have sold the business. We tried to get a charging point from Tesla. I have proof of email and they told us we don’t have enough electric cars come to Yeppoon to warrant it here. So maybe get off your computer and start exploring the country with your “great” electric cars”.
        And instead of bad mouthing somebody who has tried to get things go to Livingstone Shire Council instead maybe you might have success but love you have come to the wrong place if you think I’m worried about your little remark I’m not..
        kings regards a coal miners daughter 😊
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      2. Dimity Miller what does a coal miners daughter have anything to do with this? Not sure why you signed off like that 🤷🏼‍♀️
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      3. Dimity Miller the real attitude is there for all to see. Coal miner’s daughter. Enough said. It explains everything
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    3. Dimity Miller just called to book for 2 weeks and was told the current owners have sold and hand over in early December.

      So the we can’t give you what you need reason seems to change.

      Tip for the new owner. Al that is needed is a power point and then set a price to use it (I would suggest being not to greedy) and then EV owners can come to this beautiful spot.

      Always seems odd when reps come on and rather than looking for a solution look for a fight.

      PS hope the new owners call me back it looks a good spot for the break we are planning with family.

      But driving 45 min each way to charge up just does not work.
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      1. Peter Kernke hopefully these type of people sell up and move onto other things as they are just holding back progression

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      2. Justin Boland what type of person are you referring to please explain

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    4. Dimity Miller EV drivers don’t try and “get electricity for nothing”. They are happy to pay for it. That’s been my universal experience.

      What they aren’t happy about is misinformation which generates paranoia and is unproductive.

      Did you know there has never ever been an EV fire in Australia from a parked EV or an EV charging. All the lithium batteries fires you see on TV are e-bikes, e-scooters and hoverboards due to faulty chargers or incorrect replacement chargers - not EVs.

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    5. Dimity Miller it's a fair comment about the cost. Us EV owners shouldn't just expect to be able to plug in for free. The tesla owners asked, and were told that. Regardless of the reason the response needs to be respected. Bit of a Karen tbh

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  8. Stupid question ... as a visitor/tenant, if I plugged in my personal hairdryer (most full-sized ones will happily burn at 2-2.5kW), and the old wiring caught on fire, would it also not be covered by their insurance? I'd probably want to reconsider their insurance provider in such case ...
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    1. For context the Mobile Connector has several protection measures which prevent overloading old circuits and will often refuse to charge at anything over 1kW because of that...
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    2. Artur Bodera great question, not stupid.
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  9. This group is doing good things & presenting factual information about EV fire risk & safe charging.
    It's in all our interests to share & inform on our journeys.
    Perhaps provide links to management for their enlightenment. 🤷‍♀️🤞😉
    https://www.evfiresafe.business/course/ev-charging-fire-s…
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  10. Is Rockhamton fast charger up n going??
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    1. Liz Burgstahler There is a Chargefox/Yurika/QESH fast charger. The Tesla Superchargers are not finished yet.
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  11. When you stay at a motel or caravan park cabin, you pay a fee to stay at the accommodation. That fee would not include the electricity charge for charging a vehicle. It would be like the owner/operator of the facility offering free petrol or diesel fuel to other occupants...
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    1. Mike Robinson have you ever seen big RVs parked at caravan parks ? They all plug in no questions asked. Most contain very large batteries that they are charging while there. We had a lovely chat to a lady who would book in just to do exactly that while we weren’t able to plug our car in (that we sleep in) because it would blow their fuses. 😆

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    2. Mike Robinson: That is often true. We are happy to pay extra if required for charging. Many places just included it at no extra cost, but either way is fine. It is typically $5 to $20 of electricity, so not quite the same as a full tank of petrol 😉.

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      1. Tesla Tripping $5 to $20 is not a tank of fuel but if everyone who wants to charge there EVs was to do that the motels are the ones paying which will but passed onto all other users.Carry your own extra power dont know what you call it but is ICE users call it a jerry can be it 20 or 40 litres or what you may need .😁

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  12. Electricity is not free from what i read most EV drivers think it is or they have some extra entitlements to do so .
    What will happen next is that caravan parks motels will have to install metering for power used by guests not only will this be an extra expense for them it will be passed onto all users. Should only be passed onto EV users they want to use them make them pay more.
    I like my ICE vehicles and burning diesel .
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    1. Dave Ranceby Fair point about costs of metering. Many places we’ve found just charge a flat fee of about $20 for EV charging, so no metering required.

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    2. Dave Ranceby will your kids and their kids like climate change and its consequences because “you like burning diesel”?
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      1. Ef Misoyannis not that I want to be here in 50yrs but it will be interesting to see what era of automotive history had been more damaging in a environmental and financial effect on lives 🙏

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      2. Dave Ranceby who knows. I can’t answer that. I am sure however if we don’t get ICE cars off the road in the next 50 years, the world won’t be a great place.
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    3. Dave Ranceby I totally agree with you, the EV's are on their way out anyway so I wouldn't worry about it, I feel sorry for the people that have put one or two of them on their mortgage as they are going to become outdated very soon. Old technology, new engines are coming......
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    4. Dave Ranceby What an idiot you are. You like burning diesel. I assume that means you want climate change as well.

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  13. I call BS for those hiding behind "insurance won't allow it" excuses. Show me a single insurance policy that prohibits EV charging! These are just bogan EV haters using insurance as an excuse and they need to be named and shamed. Go on Cost Motel, if you're gonna pretend to stick to the insurance story, post your policy PDS online where it says this and we'll take it up with the insurance company instead of you!

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  14. Can confirm it's an insurance company issue.
    Insurance will not allow any high drawing appliances to be plugged in, via extension leads.

    This rule isn't new, it predates EV's.
    This rule isn't even intended for EV's - EV's just falls into the class that the rule targets - power hungry appliances.
    Yes- your EV is an appliance, it uses lots of power, it's the same as a hair dryer, a welder, a microwave, a kettle, an urn etc.

    Insurance companies are also party responsible for the wiring rules, and state by state variations.
    And as a sparky, can confirm, that power hungry appliances, plugged in via extension leads, do cause issues.

    Think about how long the run is, from the transformer, to the main building, to over to the motel, around each one of the rooms to yours, (often at a vd limit that was acceptable 40 years ago when the place was designed and built, but likely wouldn't be considered acceptable in a current build today) and has likely had more power points added to each circuit since then, to accommodate new technologies since building.

    If you plug a kettle in, should work fine.
    Plug two kettles into same circuit, it will trip (in 90% of cases - feel free to try just do so during reception hours, because you'll have no power till they are able to reset)
    But that's not really the issue here.
    The heat generated over a few minutes isn't excessive.
    But if you boiled kettles back to back for 8 hours, those cables internally, and contacts within the PowerPoint, would heat up and become less efficient & potentially eventually cause damage - hopefully on a more modern building, you would not have any issues, but boiling kettles back to back for hours in your typical motel found in a regional Australia, you would likely run into issues eventually.

    Add a standard domestic extension lead, (1mm or 1.5mm2 PVC) and try it again.
    Guarantee someone will have issues.
    That's basically your EV.

    Your EV won't catch fire.
    It's not the weak point.

    It's the extra PowerPoint added to an existing circuit, intended for bedside phone charging, and max demand calculation completed as a typical domestic installation (it's a bedroom for all intents and purposes)

    If you go and plug a hotplate into that same, likely abused PowerPoint, on the end of a 30m extension cord with undersized copper strands and only PVC sheath - the problem should be obvious to all?

    Use the dedicated EV chargers, if there is none, request some. Every visit. Everywhere you go.

    If you need to use a PowerPoint, try go direct to wall outlet (there is a thermistor built-in, that will protect you).

    If you must use an extension lead, 2.5mm² copper cores, minimum.
    Ideally rubber insulation rather than PVC also.
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    1. Rob Rob: Thanks. That’s good advice. Yes, we typically plug in directly, avoiding extension cords.

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    3. Rob Rob great explanation 👍

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  15. You are charged a normal fee for your stay at a motel/caravan park. If you want to charge your ev you should pay extra.
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    1. Peter Zaichenko: No issue with that. We’re happy to pay extra for charging when required ☺️.

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      1. Tesla Tripping And i bet you are happy with that .No charge but a lot of people would be thinking that EVs are free to run the way they are promoted but they run off electricty which costs money to generate regardless if it is solar and at times it may charge on surplus that would have been wasted .But charging overnight at motels or houses will incurr fees on the supplier of the power as in Australia we do not have sunlight during the night .

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  16. Your talking about electric CARS, electric vehicles as a whole have had thousands of lithium battery fires in Australia if you include ALL vehicles you say petrol vehicles are 10-15 times more likely to catch fire than an electric vehicles but that's not just spontaneously bursting into unextinguishable flames that burn hotter than hell like electric vehicles have been know to do, I think the numbers have been a lie by the climate liars to put electric vehicles ahead of I.C.E. vehicles, in my 50 years I have seen 1 I.C.E. vehicle catch fire sitting at a set of lights, the driver had run out of room in the car so put a sleeping bag and gas bottle in the engine compartment, every other ice vehicle I've seen on fire has been a result of external forces like house fires or natural causes like bushfires! Prove me wrong!
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      1. Tesla Tripping that don't prove shit, it's all just made up crap so dickheads fall for it and buy an electric vehicle but like I said when you say electric vehicles your only talking about electric cars, if all electric vehicles were included there would be a hell of a lot more fires , just posting shit from fans of the electric cars because I.C.E. cars don't just burst into flames without a lot of external interference like they are trying to convince people of, if as many petrol cars burst into flames as they claim we should all know multiple people in our circle of friends and family who have had cars catch fire! In my 35 years of driving and fixing and fucking cars(I've buggered a few a a kid with a heavy foot) I've been around cars, bikes, tracks and mechanics, I don't know of anyone who has been casually driving along and their car burst into flames, I'm not going to go along with mainstream media who only report the elite, woke agenda crap, prove me wrong not post crap

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    2. Jutt Ellingsen as an interstate trucker I see ash piles on the side of the road everywhere in the 4 states I travel through, testament to how many ICE vehicles catch fire, although admittedly some of those would be stolen vehicles torched to destroy evidence.
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  17. Any entrepreneurial accommodation provider would install one or more wall chargers and advertise the fact that EVs are welcome!
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  18. This region appears to be hostile towards EVs. I believe an application to install charges in Yeppoon was knocked back. We have stayed at Yeppoon for a number of years but have now transferred our winter escape to a more EV friendly location. When we asked whether we could come to an arrangement to plug in to points at the apartment carpark the body corporate stated “Under no circumstance….” . So goodbye Yeppoon. Our advice is to avoid the area until good sense prevails.
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